santb1975
12-03 03:01 PM
But is this ok to do?
Is this a legal option for a non profit? If so, I suggest we go for it!
Here is one scheme I have been thinking about:
1. Every week members donate any amount they like over paypal
2. At the end of the week one of them is selected and refunded 2 times his contribution amount
3. To make things interesting and ensure the scheme "helps" and not "hurts" IV: Change the selection process every once in a while e.g. One week you select the user who has donated an "average" amount, but next week you select the "highest" donor, in the 3rd week you select the "5th" name in the donor's list irrespective of his amount, and so on.
e.g.
consider the following players/amounts in a given week:
user1: $20
user2: $100
user3: $10
user4: $45
user5: $25
user6: $50
user7: $25
user8: $5
user9: $10
user10: $100
________
Total: $390
Divide by 10 users: $39
This week's selection process: Select the "average" donor.
Who donated an amount closest to the average? : user4 ($45)
Therefore, refund user4 for $90
What IV received in the process: $390- $90 = $300
The other BIG question is: what incentive do people then have to sign up for monthly contributions, which is clearly the preferred way of contributing as it helps in planning and budgeting? The answer would probably be "bigger" prizes for those who sign up for monthly contributions!
Of course... if only people realize there can be no greater incentive than receiving your Green Card sooner/ being able to apply for AOS any time after LC/PERM stage is cleared.... we would not have to care about all these fancy ideas!
Too bad people can't see what is "2+2" until it is shown as 2*2*2 - 2^2!
Is this a legal option for a non profit? If so, I suggest we go for it!
Here is one scheme I have been thinking about:
1. Every week members donate any amount they like over paypal
2. At the end of the week one of them is selected and refunded 2 times his contribution amount
3. To make things interesting and ensure the scheme "helps" and not "hurts" IV: Change the selection process every once in a while e.g. One week you select the user who has donated an "average" amount, but next week you select the "highest" donor, in the 3rd week you select the "5th" name in the donor's list irrespective of his amount, and so on.
e.g.
consider the following players/amounts in a given week:
user1: $20
user2: $100
user3: $10
user4: $45
user5: $25
user6: $50
user7: $25
user8: $5
user9: $10
user10: $100
________
Total: $390
Divide by 10 users: $39
This week's selection process: Select the "average" donor.
Who donated an amount closest to the average? : user4 ($45)
Therefore, refund user4 for $90
What IV received in the process: $390- $90 = $300
The other BIG question is: what incentive do people then have to sign up for monthly contributions, which is clearly the preferred way of contributing as it helps in planning and budgeting? The answer would probably be "bigger" prizes for those who sign up for monthly contributions!
Of course... if only people realize there can be no greater incentive than receiving your Green Card sooner/ being able to apply for AOS any time after LC/PERM stage is cleared.... we would not have to care about all these fancy ideas!
Too bad people can't see what is "2+2" until it is shown as 2*2*2 - 2^2!
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Seek_Gc
07-17 05:49 PM
The link provided in the front page shows
H.R. 6938 [110th]: Reuniting Families Act (GovTrack.us) (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6938)
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.
Then why are we still talking about sending fax etc to senators ? am i missing current link
H.R. 6938 [110th]: Reuniting Families Act (GovTrack.us) (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6938)
This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.
Then why are we still talking about sending fax etc to senators ? am i missing current link
browncow
05-25 01:27 PM
here is the link http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6938
looks like this bill will not go no where ...there is only 3 cosponsors..:mad::mad:
all of them democrats, in a house of democrats.
and you dont need 15 sponsors for a bill. and having 3 sponsors does not weaken the merit of a bill. in fact most bills would only have less than 10 cosponsors.
And it was in the democrats' rule that the last EB favored legislation was passed.
looks like this bill will not go no where ...there is only 3 cosponsors..:mad::mad:
all of them democrats, in a house of democrats.
and you dont need 15 sponsors for a bill. and having 3 sponsors does not weaken the merit of a bill. in fact most bills would only have less than 10 cosponsors.
And it was in the democrats' rule that the last EB favored legislation was passed.
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skdskd
01-30 05:20 PM
Question 26 Now (page 2)
26. Question on: Immigration
26. Question on: Immigration
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villamonte6100
11-02 02:25 PM
I thought people came here for economic reasons(mostly), now it looks like we cannot afford good property inn India and are not going back.
I think you got a very good point here.
If India is really good economically, people from all over the world would be going there and find job.
I think you got a very good point here.
If India is really good economically, people from all over the world would be going there and find job.
md_alien
03-13 09:47 AM
Thanks OP for mining out this information. Thats the advantage of being in a forum, members are looking around at all places for information and sharing it with others. Keep up the good work.
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alisa
02-11 03:56 PM
By doing what you are suggesting
a) you take numbers away from EB-3 ROW and hurt them
b) you don't do any benefit whatsoever to EB-3 India/China
c) you only benefit EB-2 India/China (at the expense of EB-3 ROW)
So, you make no difference whatsoever to huge number of EB-applicants (b), and you benefit (c) at the expense of (a).
I hope you see that this is not a good solution for the majority of EB-applicants. With this kind of cannibalization, the only people who have any incentive to stay with IV would be EB-2 India/China.
We have to work to increase the size of the pie here, and not engage in a zero sum game.
It says "not required by other classes". In this case it is required but could not be applied to EB2 due to per country numerical limits. Therefore it should go to unused pool of visas followed by AC21. Also why will USCIS prefer EB3 instead of EB2 people? It does not make sense.
As far as suing the govt is concerned we all know what happened to doctors in the UK.. so this is will be a futile exercise.
a) you take numbers away from EB-3 ROW and hurt them
b) you don't do any benefit whatsoever to EB-3 India/China
c) you only benefit EB-2 India/China (at the expense of EB-3 ROW)
So, you make no difference whatsoever to huge number of EB-applicants (b), and you benefit (c) at the expense of (a).
I hope you see that this is not a good solution for the majority of EB-applicants. With this kind of cannibalization, the only people who have any incentive to stay with IV would be EB-2 India/China.
We have to work to increase the size of the pie here, and not engage in a zero sum game.
It says "not required by other classes". In this case it is required but could not be applied to EB2 due to per country numerical limits. Therefore it should go to unused pool of visas followed by AC21. Also why will USCIS prefer EB3 instead of EB2 people? It does not make sense.
As far as suing the govt is concerned we all know what happened to doctors in the UK.. so this is will be a futile exercise.
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pbojja
10-03 12:24 PM
Now tell me who give me red and for what ? Just let me know the reason . Dont just give a red for disagreeeing with your views ..give reds if we use foul language, which I never will
I m EB2 guy and support porting .
I m EB2 guy and support porting .
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qasleuth
05-14 12:21 PM
and one more point, we are never going to get treated with respect and equality, just get used to it. every American knows we left our country to come to his. he is always gonna look down upon us. Immigrants are never treated with love, respect and dignity, no matter which country they go to. Case in point, Bangladeshi and Nepali migrant workers in India. We treat them like dirt back home, so discrimination against immigrants is part of immigration process. hopefully our ABCD offspring's will face less of it
Excuse me ?? Why did you leave your country and come here ? Your motivations maybe totally different than mine, so don't assume they are the same. For the reason I came over here, why would any 'American' treat me like dirt ? Many countries in Asia are not lands of the immigrant like USA. So your anology of treating migrant workers like 'dirt' to folks over here the same way is totally wrong. Please for heaven sake do some reading before you open your mouth again...you are talking nonsense man....people who are encouraging you are perhaps doing it to see you make a bigger fool of yourself...get off the forums do some reading.
Excuse me ?? Why did you leave your country and come here ? Your motivations maybe totally different than mine, so don't assume they are the same. For the reason I came over here, why would any 'American' treat me like dirt ? Many countries in Asia are not lands of the immigrant like USA. So your anology of treating migrant workers like 'dirt' to folks over here the same way is totally wrong. Please for heaven sake do some reading before you open your mouth again...you are talking nonsense man....people who are encouraging you are perhaps doing it to see you make a bigger fool of yourself...get off the forums do some reading.
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Canadianindian
07-15 09:52 PM
Done
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santb1975
06-02 07:17 PM
Keep calling
Called all of them, updated poll:)
Called all of them, updated poll:)
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santb1975
01-30 08:48 PM
We will get a lot of coverage if this actually gets asked
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07-15 08:33 PM
Signed
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NKR
09-25 04:21 PM
Thanks Lasantha for all your help. Even after getting your green card you continue to participate and help others in this struggle. That is Great. For the sake of disclosure here are some of the messages you left for other members. I think that these messages are extremely abusive and very harsh as compared to the message left for you. Although we do not encourage the use of words like moron, stupid, idiot, we see these words being used often on the forum.
Lasantha 02:39, 23rd Sep 2007 -23 Ass hole !!!
Lasantha 10:59, 14th Nov 2007 -27 Eat Crap you bastard!
Lasantha 00:54, 19th Nov 2007 -27 DUMBASS YOURSELF!!!
Lasantha 17:03, 5th Dec 2007 -28 WTF
Lasantha 18:05, 14th Jan 2008 -39 WTF is wrong with you?
Lasantha 16:06, 11th Mar 2008 -45 Wacko???
Lasantha 21:29, 18th Mar 2008 -52 what the fuck???
You be the judge the let us know if you want to know the user who left you that remark. We will go ahead and post that on this thread. And for the sake of fairness, we will also post the members for whom you left the above messages. You be the judge and decide.
Thanks for your understanding.
I notice that all the remarks have been made before he/she got his/her GC. It is amazing to know what impact GC makes on a person�s state of mind. Waiting forever for GC is damn frustrating.
Lasantha 02:39, 23rd Sep 2007 -23 Ass hole !!!
Lasantha 10:59, 14th Nov 2007 -27 Eat Crap you bastard!
Lasantha 00:54, 19th Nov 2007 -27 DUMBASS YOURSELF!!!
Lasantha 17:03, 5th Dec 2007 -28 WTF
Lasantha 18:05, 14th Jan 2008 -39 WTF is wrong with you?
Lasantha 16:06, 11th Mar 2008 -45 Wacko???
Lasantha 21:29, 18th Mar 2008 -52 what the fuck???
You be the judge the let us know if you want to know the user who left you that remark. We will go ahead and post that on this thread. And for the sake of fairness, we will also post the members for whom you left the above messages. You be the judge and decide.
Thanks for your understanding.
I notice that all the remarks have been made before he/she got his/her GC. It is amazing to know what impact GC makes on a person�s state of mind. Waiting forever for GC is damn frustrating.
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desixp
12-17 05:51 AM
Hi,
I am also struck in the same situation. My Interview was done on 7th Dec and so far I did not get the passport. Vfs website says "Your passport has not been handed over to VFS. I sent an email to 'ChennaiNIV@state.gov'. Got a reply that application is under process will be processed soon.
Thanks for all the responses.
DesiXP
I am also struck in the same situation. My Interview was done on 7th Dec and so far I did not get the passport. Vfs website says "Your passport has not been handed over to VFS. I sent an email to 'ChennaiNIV@state.gov'. Got a reply that application is under process will be processed soon.
Thanks for all the responses.
DesiXP
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sri1309
01-13 09:14 AM
I had signed in but don't know how to vote. The link you mention below does not work either.
No more chance to vote. But you can submit your ideas.
Dear Pappu,
I wish next time when the window opens for voting, can you please hIGHLIGHT it on the site, so that people who login, can immediately go and vote. Else these guys have time to spend on why airindia sucks, or palestine, or stocks in this site, but not for something more impo.
I could know only when I checked some post, else even I would have missed it.
No more chance to vote. But you can submit your ideas.
Dear Pappu,
I wish next time when the window opens for voting, can you please hIGHLIGHT it on the site, so that people who login, can immediately go and vote. Else these guys have time to spend on why airindia sucks, or palestine, or stocks in this site, but not for something more impo.
I could know only when I checked some post, else even I would have missed it.
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gccovet
05-23 02:34 PM
When you call the law makers and tell them you support XYZ bill.. my question is what do you get out of it!
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can’t vote and
>who can’t contribute to his election campaign…
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill…
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call… a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members’ login and sign the forms digitally…
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups ….
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head…and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..”saar …support the bill saar”..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess …. And it’s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
Calling Law makers helps (All the calls are conveyed - in brief) the number matters.
By the way,
I do agree on getting digital signatures as well.
I will be there to support you whenever you take a lead and start the signature campaign though.
We can do both (call + signs).
GCCovet.
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can’t vote and
>who can’t contribute to his election campaign…
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill…
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call… a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members’ login and sign the forms digitally…
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups ….
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head…and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..”saar …support the bill saar”..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess …. And it’s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
Calling Law makers helps (All the calls are conveyed - in brief) the number matters.
By the way,
I do agree on getting digital signatures as well.
I will be there to support you whenever you take a lead and start the signature campaign though.
We can do both (call + signs).
GCCovet.
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raj2007
06-12 11:31 AM
Hi,
Today I met an attorney(not the one from Insurance..that is WIP still).
He feels that the main target is Rental agency(with deep pockets) and not the others who were included as defendants.
His argument is,
-- I am on H1
-- Not much of bank balance
-- No assets
-- Have a very old 98 model car(not even lexus , BMW etc..)
-- With a spouse and 2 kids to be taken care of
So I am poor chap and there is nothing they can extract much out of my pockets other than the 50K which my insurance will pay. He feels it is pretty straight forward case.The only twist to the story is, he is thinking that some of the defendants(rental agencies and others) may file lawsuits against me [I donno what they can extract out of me] as police report/Insurance agency concluded it as my fault (80% - 20%) after the accident..
In case If I wanted to have my attorney, I need to cough up $275/hr and 5K check upfront and he feels his fee may add upto 10K by the end of all this. So not sure whether just go with insurance agent's attorney for the time being and just wait how it goes, even if the case goes against me as I don't have much bank balance etc I am not sure what they can get out of me..
Any thoughts??
Just wait before hiring any attroney. Rental agency attroney will fight till end and your credit card company also covers the insurance.
I feel you will be OK.
Today I met an attorney(not the one from Insurance..that is WIP still).
He feels that the main target is Rental agency(with deep pockets) and not the others who were included as defendants.
His argument is,
-- I am on H1
-- Not much of bank balance
-- No assets
-- Have a very old 98 model car(not even lexus , BMW etc..)
-- With a spouse and 2 kids to be taken care of
So I am poor chap and there is nothing they can extract much out of my pockets other than the 50K which my insurance will pay. He feels it is pretty straight forward case.The only twist to the story is, he is thinking that some of the defendants(rental agencies and others) may file lawsuits against me [I donno what they can extract out of me] as police report/Insurance agency concluded it as my fault (80% - 20%) after the accident..
In case If I wanted to have my attorney, I need to cough up $275/hr and 5K check upfront and he feels his fee may add upto 10K by the end of all this. So not sure whether just go with insurance agent's attorney for the time being and just wait how it goes, even if the case goes against me as I don't have much bank balance etc I am not sure what they can get out of me..
Any thoughts??
Just wait before hiring any attroney. Rental agency attroney will fight till end and your credit card company also covers the insurance.
I feel you will be OK.
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snathan
01-17 02:45 PM
hey snathan
how about a addnl category in the survey
people who are not on h1 but willing to contribute
I am sure there will be some ;-)
cinqsit
Could not modify the poll.
how about a addnl category in the survey
people who are not on h1 but willing to contribute
I am sure there will be some ;-)
cinqsit
Could not modify the poll.
sin94
03-30 04:35 PM
Question do we have to stop working upon receipt of the denial and wait until receipt of MTR? What are work options when a situation like this occurs
I have used ac21 and moved to a new employer and although my former employer have indicated that they will not revoke the approved I-140 (485 pending since Oct 07) if they do and USCIS does the same situation as described above for me & wife would I be out of status from that period?
Me being the primary applicant and wife the derivative are not using our H1's (I have 9 months remaining of my 6 year period and wife 3 years) I accepted a full time invoking Ac21 with the new company and joined using EAD. My wife has accepted a contract position using her EAD
I read somewhere that if you get a NOID and its the 485 gets rejected (even upon providing supporting documents) are we allowed to work during any of that period? what happens if we respond with MTR? how long will it normally take to respond?
ADVAthanksNCE :) to all
I have used ac21 and moved to a new employer and although my former employer have indicated that they will not revoke the approved I-140 (485 pending since Oct 07) if they do and USCIS does the same situation as described above for me & wife would I be out of status from that period?
Me being the primary applicant and wife the derivative are not using our H1's (I have 9 months remaining of my 6 year period and wife 3 years) I accepted a full time invoking Ac21 with the new company and joined using EAD. My wife has accepted a contract position using her EAD
I read somewhere that if you get a NOID and its the 485 gets rejected (even upon providing supporting documents) are we allowed to work during any of that period? what happens if we respond with MTR? how long will it normally take to respond?
ADVAthanksNCE :) to all
forever_waiting
04-22 07:26 PM
eb3chinese.org was the site created. But of the info is in Chinese.
I had gone through their presentation sometime back and they were basically complaining about how EB india gets most of the spillover and they don't (along with some common arguments about visa recapture, FIFO etc etc.) You should be able to get details from their class action doc against USCIS uploaded on the site.
when news of this class action lawsuit initially came out, lots of folks on IV were mad at why we were not joining in and that we should launch a barrage of lawsuits against USCIS as well. IV core at that time calmly explained that lawsuit options have been explored and will not be viable but few people listened.
Anyway a recent update on this forum shared that they lost the lawsuit. So on hindsight we saved ourself lot of time, effort and money.
Hey forever,
What is this lawsuit? Do you have info?
I had gone through their presentation sometime back and they were basically complaining about how EB india gets most of the spillover and they don't (along with some common arguments about visa recapture, FIFO etc etc.) You should be able to get details from their class action doc against USCIS uploaded on the site.
when news of this class action lawsuit initially came out, lots of folks on IV were mad at why we were not joining in and that we should launch a barrage of lawsuits against USCIS as well. IV core at that time calmly explained that lawsuit options have been explored and will not be viable but few people listened.
Anyway a recent update on this forum shared that they lost the lawsuit. So on hindsight we saved ourself lot of time, effort and money.
Hey forever,
What is this lawsuit? Do you have info?
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