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GCBy3000
02-05 04:34 PM
Make H4 illegal and get a job in farm land. Then in two years you will get your gc as dependent. Just kidding.
This country does not like legals. We have to get all the illegals(if agjobs bill get passed) on legal boat behind us and at the end they will also realize what the sh..t it is to be as a legal in this country. Then IV will get more members and funds and they will get united with us.
Again, if they take different queue than us then we are in SOUP. We have to make sure we get our bills, if somehow we fail on this and illegals gets something, still we need to make sure illegals come behind our queue. If this is done, then even our little whisper will be heard across the globe. What a pity situation for taxpaying legals. By this time, it will be 2025 and my son will take care of me.
This country does not like legals. We have to get all the illegals(if agjobs bill get passed) on legal boat behind us and at the end they will also realize what the sh..t it is to be as a legal in this country. Then IV will get more members and funds and they will get united with us.
Again, if they take different queue than us then we are in SOUP. We have to make sure we get our bills, if somehow we fail on this and illegals gets something, still we need to make sure illegals come behind our queue. If this is done, then even our little whisper will be heard across the globe. What a pity situation for taxpaying legals. By this time, it will be 2025 and my son will take care of me.
suavesandeep
05-01 11:30 AM
Good to know, thanks. Maybe we were reading different threads :) One thing though, because of the heavy rush of citizenship filing in 2007, combined with the election-year pressure of 2008, petitions were fast-tracked in recent years. There are so many confounding factors, anything is possible.
I can attest to this as well, I know couple of close friends one in NJ area and one in Bay Area CA both of whom got naturalized in 3-5 months time frame. This occurred in the last 2 months so this is fresh data. In both cases the N400 app was approved within 3 months of filing..And the interview was a month later after the approval. Again i just know these 2 guys so my data spread is limited. On other hand i dont know anybody in my circle waiting for a long time on N400.
I can attest to this as well, I know couple of close friends one in NJ area and one in Bay Area CA both of whom got naturalized in 3-5 months time frame. This occurred in the last 2 months so this is fresh data. In both cases the N400 app was approved within 3 months of filing..And the interview was a month later after the approval. Again i just know these 2 guys so my data spread is limited. On other hand i dont know anybody in my circle waiting for a long time on N400.
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Macaca
02-15 01:54 PM
As soon as some one expresses his frustration, person is automatically labeled as a bad guy.
A short digression to an answer.
Most CS undergraduate curriculums have a 4 course sequence CS-1, CS-2, CS-3 and CS-4. This means that CS-3 is pre-requisite for CS-4, .... In CS-4 it is not possible to answer CS-1 questions. The instructor gets irritated if you do that.
Your following concerns are covered in Retrogression 101.
1. Things change in DC. Core had some info in Dec/Jan that changed.
2. No one can promise anything. Bush is the most ardent supporter of CIR but can (will) not get it done.
Nothing happening as some core members wrote in very optimistic tone about Feb 15. No congressman is even talking about it lately.
Are core members trying to just enroll more by giving hollow promises?
It is very irritating for someone in Retrogression 401 to answer Retrogression 101 questions at the rate of 1 per day with no desire to be educated.
I have tried to answer a Retrogression 101 question in Issues surrounding Immigration Voice's disclosure of Funds (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3236&page=5). My answer was from a URL without my opinions. This thread was devoted to this one person. The answers had no effect on the person. We wasted a day on it.
Forget contributions - find other ways to survive......
A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.
A short digression to an answer.
Most CS undergraduate curriculums have a 4 course sequence CS-1, CS-2, CS-3 and CS-4. This means that CS-3 is pre-requisite for CS-4, .... In CS-4 it is not possible to answer CS-1 questions. The instructor gets irritated if you do that.
Your following concerns are covered in Retrogression 101.
1. Things change in DC. Core had some info in Dec/Jan that changed.
2. No one can promise anything. Bush is the most ardent supporter of CIR but can (will) not get it done.
Nothing happening as some core members wrote in very optimistic tone about Feb 15. No congressman is even talking about it lately.
Are core members trying to just enroll more by giving hollow promises?
It is very irritating for someone in Retrogression 401 to answer Retrogression 101 questions at the rate of 1 per day with no desire to be educated.
I have tried to answer a Retrogression 101 question in Issues surrounding Immigration Voice's disclosure of Funds (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3236&page=5). My answer was from a URL without my opinions. This thread was devoted to this one person. The answers had no effect on the person. We wasted a day on it.
Forget contributions - find other ways to survive......
A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.
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06-03 08:57 AM
...to the top.
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jayram123
07-12 03:28 PM
If you heard what the restrictionist lawmakers have said about what to do with illegal�s, this retrogression makes sense. The restrictionists want to make life miserable for illegal�s by making it difficult for them to get jobs, this way the illegal�s would go back on there own.
They are trying to do the same thing with us legal�s (without saying it aloud). If you are from India it will take you at least 6 to 8 years (if you are lucky) to get a green card. Frankly in the fast changing technologically advanced world how many people can hold on to the same job for 8 years straight, they cannot. People lose jobs because they are laid of, the company has run into bad times, the technology has changed and the company wants to move you to a different role or position etc, this way a lot of people have to switch jobs which invalidates thete green card process. They are making your life miserable so that you are broken down psychologically and finally will go away either on your own or because of some arcane rule, example the labor should be applied more than one year before h1 expiration etc, a living example is that Indian guy who posted recently that he is leaving US to work for Microsoft in Canada. This way they get the best of both worlds, you have young people in the prime of there life without any diseases who do not burden there medicare system, working hard and paying social security taxes and medicare taxes (which they will not get back) and in the end they are kicked out or go away on there own.
You got it right or what!!! That sounds like the modern definition of slavery and seems to be what is happening in US despite all the claims of abolishment of slavery. They just have refined it to a point where it is subtle and not so blatant.
They are trying to do the same thing with us legal�s (without saying it aloud). If you are from India it will take you at least 6 to 8 years (if you are lucky) to get a green card. Frankly in the fast changing technologically advanced world how many people can hold on to the same job for 8 years straight, they cannot. People lose jobs because they are laid of, the company has run into bad times, the technology has changed and the company wants to move you to a different role or position etc, this way a lot of people have to switch jobs which invalidates thete green card process. They are making your life miserable so that you are broken down psychologically and finally will go away either on your own or because of some arcane rule, example the labor should be applied more than one year before h1 expiration etc, a living example is that Indian guy who posted recently that he is leaving US to work for Microsoft in Canada. This way they get the best of both worlds, you have young people in the prime of there life without any diseases who do not burden there medicare system, working hard and paying social security taxes and medicare taxes (which they will not get back) and in the end they are kicked out or go away on there own.
You got it right or what!!! That sounds like the modern definition of slavery and seems to be what is happening in US despite all the claims of abolishment of slavery. They just have refined it to a point where it is subtle and not so blatant.
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houston2005
12-09 08:58 AM
GcSoon-Ihope is from France. I thought that retrogression is mainly for India with some effects on China, Philipines and Mexico.
Please explain why bulletins are applicable to you. Thanks.
Merry Christmas!
Congratulations for the GC. You have a very compelling ordeal and now you deserve the best.
It doen't matters where he is from France or any other other country. The truth of the matter is, this is what exactly happens to every HIGH SKILLED Legal immigrant in this country. Some may go thru less others more...but this is tragedy of the system created by the 'worthless and clueless politicians of USA'.
Please explain why bulletins are applicable to you. Thanks.
Merry Christmas!
Congratulations for the GC. You have a very compelling ordeal and now you deserve the best.
It doen't matters where he is from France or any other other country. The truth of the matter is, this is what exactly happens to every HIGH SKILLED Legal immigrant in this country. Some may go thru less others more...but this is tragedy of the system created by the 'worthless and clueless politicians of USA'.
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sam2006
07-18 06:04 PM
what about 3rd July applications?
Mine Reached 3rd july 7:50 AM?
Checks not cleared ...
Mine Reached 3rd july 7:50 AM?
Checks not cleared ...
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coopheal
04-21 02:06 PM
Sent another one and its about that Moron snathan
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You are being warned. mend your ways otherwise be prepared for ban.
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You are being warned. mend your ways otherwise be prepared for ban.
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anzerraja
07-19 08:45 PM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman's expenses.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
No. It's not a typo. I had met Aman in a conference in December. He was talking about selling his house to contribute to IV (I really hope he didn't have to). But he has contributed a small fortune to this effort.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
No. It's not a typo. I had met Aman in a conference in December. He was talking about selling his house to contribute to IV (I really hope he didn't have to). But he has contributed a small fortune to this effort.
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jetflyer
06-13 10:05 AM
They can move the Dates in both Categories while giving preference to EB1 and EB2 first.
You are purely thinking about your perspective and neglecting the purpose of GC for the country.
To qualify in EB1/Eb2/EB3 depends on some factors:
EB1: Extra ordinary candidate, may or may not be represented by employer
EB2: Senior Level: Job duties have to justify need for advance degree candidate (or BS + 5yrs exp) and then candidate must qualify too
EB3: 16 years of education (ideally) with degree in related field (lets talk IT for now)
Now current status and its cause:
EB1: - No jumping, no gaming system : Hence NO DELAYS
EB2: - Good chunk with genuine apps, some gaming system where applicant qualify but not the job, some gaming system and taking very high risk by showing BS +5 yrs (they actually don't have +5 factor), other jumping the category (legally :D) but taking very high risk for RFE
Result: Got retrogressed
EB3: Good chunk with genuine apps, some unfortunate ppl who do qualify but job doesn't support experience or higher pay, lot of gaming system with BS (3yr) in non Computer/IT and showing 1yr certifications etc, and everybody who does not qualify for EB1/EB2, lot of nurses (I heard someone said nurses in back)
Result: Severely retrogressed with no hopes in horizon
Now lets look at market demand ( we know supply of apps is pretty darn good)
EB 1: Very very high : general pay range starts from $250k+ and goes up to $400k for fresher (PHDs) and in upper $150k for Int'l Managers
EB 2:: High, general pay starts high $80k and goes somewhere $140k+,
EB 3:: good, starts from upper $40k and goes somewhere $65-70k, (lots of job and lots of applicant)
Now lets take a look at Supply of Apps (Assumption 1M apps already in system):
EB1: say 50K (5%) - (fast processing - Express lane)
EB2: may be 200K (20%) - (sounds good on paper but in realty slow but moving)
EB3: everything else (75%) (OMG :eek: stampede : frustration with no visible progress)
Now lets checkout preference:
Preference from perspective of country, what benefits country the most:
EB1: ohh : lets get them in ASAP
EB2: yes yes we welcome you please come in (after some long wait)
EB3: OMG its flood of ppl, use extra strong flood gate and keep them out as long as possible, and let them in with very low rate
Now This:
Like everything in the world, the fewer the qty the hotter the product,
the abundance kills the market, applies perfectly with EB2, in 2000-2001 it used to take 12-24 months and you have GC in hand, and now .. may be by my kids turns 16yrs, and EB3: 2000-2001 use to take about 3 yrs and but right then we started getting flood, and thanks to 200K H1bs in 2001-2.
End of the day EB1/EB2/EB3 all are immigrant and are victim of broken system (I’m sure EB1 disagree here with me because they enjoy express lanes), it need fix but is it high priority for law makers or we just think it is?
how desperate we are to provide help? or we are just good at reading/writing here and using IV and other forums for venting out? ask yourself
The list goes on and my analysis goes on, but these are just my thoughts thinking out loud,
and trying to think for a solution.... Next thought -> Solution, I will post in coming days
You are purely thinking about your perspective and neglecting the purpose of GC for the country.
To qualify in EB1/Eb2/EB3 depends on some factors:
EB1: Extra ordinary candidate, may or may not be represented by employer
EB2: Senior Level: Job duties have to justify need for advance degree candidate (or BS + 5yrs exp) and then candidate must qualify too
EB3: 16 years of education (ideally) with degree in related field (lets talk IT for now)
Now current status and its cause:
EB1: - No jumping, no gaming system : Hence NO DELAYS
EB2: - Good chunk with genuine apps, some gaming system where applicant qualify but not the job, some gaming system and taking very high risk by showing BS +5 yrs (they actually don't have +5 factor), other jumping the category (legally :D) but taking very high risk for RFE
Result: Got retrogressed
EB3: Good chunk with genuine apps, some unfortunate ppl who do qualify but job doesn't support experience or higher pay, lot of gaming system with BS (3yr) in non Computer/IT and showing 1yr certifications etc, and everybody who does not qualify for EB1/EB2, lot of nurses (I heard someone said nurses in back)
Result: Severely retrogressed with no hopes in horizon
Now lets look at market demand ( we know supply of apps is pretty darn good)
EB 1: Very very high : general pay range starts from $250k+ and goes up to $400k for fresher (PHDs) and in upper $150k for Int'l Managers
EB 2:: High, general pay starts high $80k and goes somewhere $140k+,
EB 3:: good, starts from upper $40k and goes somewhere $65-70k, (lots of job and lots of applicant)
Now lets take a look at Supply of Apps (Assumption 1M apps already in system):
EB1: say 50K (5%) - (fast processing - Express lane)
EB2: may be 200K (20%) - (sounds good on paper but in realty slow but moving)
EB3: everything else (75%) (OMG :eek: stampede : frustration with no visible progress)
Now lets checkout preference:
Preference from perspective of country, what benefits country the most:
EB1: ohh : lets get them in ASAP
EB2: yes yes we welcome you please come in (after some long wait)
EB3: OMG its flood of ppl, use extra strong flood gate and keep them out as long as possible, and let them in with very low rate
Now This:
Like everything in the world, the fewer the qty the hotter the product,
the abundance kills the market, applies perfectly with EB2, in 2000-2001 it used to take 12-24 months and you have GC in hand, and now .. may be by my kids turns 16yrs, and EB3: 2000-2001 use to take about 3 yrs and but right then we started getting flood, and thanks to 200K H1bs in 2001-2.
End of the day EB1/EB2/EB3 all are immigrant and are victim of broken system (I’m sure EB1 disagree here with me because they enjoy express lanes), it need fix but is it high priority for law makers or we just think it is?
how desperate we are to provide help? or we are just good at reading/writing here and using IV and other forums for venting out? ask yourself
The list goes on and my analysis goes on, but these are just my thoughts thinking out loud,
and trying to think for a solution.... Next thought -> Solution, I will post in coming days
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wandmaker
06-02 08:16 AM
Since all the reps are from California, Is this only for California members?
If not, let me know and I will get on the horn as soon as I can (probably not possible today, maybe tomorrow).
Please call - they may ask you to contact the local rep; just tell them you have already contacted, it should be fine.
If not, let me know and I will get on the horn as soon as I can (probably not possible today, maybe tomorrow).
Please call - they may ask you to contact the local rep; just tell them you have already contacted, it should be fine.
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chanduv23
06-07 11:10 AM
borgho - Your first point about big companies not cooperating in this is a very true and important point.
Yes, only some progressive companies with progressive thoughts will actually do something. As such, only progressive politicians will do something about.
Rest, they don't care. If they get someone (Citizen, H1b, L1, b1) anything they will get their work done. In big companies the issue is with heirarchy. You superior would love to do something for you because you work hard and get him good name but then managements are not like that. They are selfish. They would like to cut costs and if possible they would love to see your job going overseas ASAP after keeping you as contractor tillwork gets done. These companies will never change. Never rely on such companies.
Mid sized companies with energetic entreprenuers who have progressive ideas and thoughts would actualy fit our cause. They see you as an integral part of the organization and would like to help.
About DL: it is crazy. I made 5 visits to DMV CT to get my out of State DL renewed.
These things must be changed.
Yes, only some progressive companies with progressive thoughts will actually do something. As such, only progressive politicians will do something about.
Rest, they don't care. If they get someone (Citizen, H1b, L1, b1) anything they will get their work done. In big companies the issue is with heirarchy. You superior would love to do something for you because you work hard and get him good name but then managements are not like that. They are selfish. They would like to cut costs and if possible they would love to see your job going overseas ASAP after keeping you as contractor tillwork gets done. These companies will never change. Never rely on such companies.
Mid sized companies with energetic entreprenuers who have progressive ideas and thoughts would actualy fit our cause. They see you as an integral part of the organization and would like to help.
About DL: it is crazy. I made 5 visits to DMV CT to get my out of State DL renewed.
These things must be changed.
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mrdelhiite
07-12 08:20 AM
He says we will come to know about where things will be going by the time they release the August bulletin.
please share the name of the law firm he works for ?
-M
please share the name of the law firm he works for ?
-M
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pappu
04-27 08:43 PM
Thanks.
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carbon
09-13 02:42 PM
I think we should gather hundreds of thousands of people on H1B and waiting for greencard and rally together in Washington DC. Numbers does matter.
I don't believe American politicians ONLY care about Americans and nothing else, If that is true how can you explain amnesties given in the past !!
I don't believe American politicians ONLY care about Americans and nothing else, If that is true how can you explain amnesties given in the past !!
meg_z
03-13 01:20 PM
Thanks for put it into words.
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don�t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don�t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
snathan
01-17 11:54 AM
Pappu, aman and other IV core members...please guide us this fight..
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